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Thursday, April 30, 2009

[Divine Souls:3824] Re: Needs of creation the world

DNJ Beloved Saints,
 
Very interesting question thanks for bringing it up. Something to think outside the box. I believe question is a question and it has its own relevance to it. it depends how we take it as human beings or individuals. GOD has manifested himself in human being to experience his own glory or richness. Totally agree it's not possible to understand GOD'S plan by human senses but we can get to the Jist and than some by following divinity. I have come across this interesting link worth having a look. Just wanted to share with you all.
 

Please Forgive me for any inappropriate words.
 
Humbly 

TajinderBamrah 
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Problem Boy <amanverma.9@gmail.com> wrote:
Rev Saint
Say with love Dhan Nirankar ji.......

Rev Sain das asked so many question so please forgive me for my these Questions....

There is an other question with me that Why the world was created by Nirankar? ..... Wat was need of It.
Wat he want to do after creation of world......

and as we know the universe have been created many time and finished also.

wat is the reason of It.

Das know that u all saints have answer of every question.......

so please guide me.


--
Dust of ur lotus feet.
Aman Verma
Contact No:- 9718057522




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[Divine Souls:3821] Re: Needs of creation the world

Dhan Nirankarji,
 
God has created this universe out of himself.  He became many from one.  He is celebrating himself with all forms and nuances.  A 'super celestial ecstic dance ('Maharaas' ) is going on expressing his great joy.  He taught/teaching all parts of him (i.e. all yunis) to take part in that dance in various forms like Satguru, nature, elements etc. directly or indirectly.  So understand that and participate in that 'Maharaas' of the LORD and enjoy the bliss. 
 
If somebody is not in BLISS it is just due to Ignorance.  Get Hold of the Satguru to get rid of the ignorance and participate in the Universal Ecstic Celestial Dance and enjoy the BLISS.
 
Please forgive me if I am wrong.
 
Dhan Nirankarji,
 
D. Nageswara Rao
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:13 AM
Subject: [Divine Souls:3813] Re: Needs of creation the world

Rev Saint das want to ask that Has God created the human being or any other creatures only just for enjoy Himself :-).....

As das had listened in his childhood that when The world has not been created then the God was feeling alone so he think that lets I create the World...... its means The God create the world only just for Enjoying .....and the person who have not obey the order of God then he fall into the cycle of  Birth and Death.......but as the scientific research the man has been created after the creation of lakhs year. Then what was the mistake of that person who had birth as  any other animal or creature before the birth as a Human.

Please forgive me if das asked any wrong question... 

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Harmohinder Singh Bhatia <upashak@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Saints
Dhan Nirankar ji.It is a beutifull world.God created for us to enjoy,love,share,apriciate the diversity and be thankfull for this.
Thanks
Upashak
 

Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:10:32 -0400
Subject: [Divine Souls:3806] Needs of creation the world
From: amanverma.9@gmail.com
To: Divine_Souls@googlegroups.com


Rev Saint
Say with love Dhan Nirankar ji.......

Rev Sain das asked so many question so please forgive me for my these Questions....

There is an other question with me that Why the world was created by Nirankar? ..... Wat was need of It.
Wat he want to do after creation of world......

and as we know the universe have been created many time and finished also.

wat is the reason of It.

Das know that u all saints have answer of every question.......

so please guide me.


--
Dust of ur lotus feet.
Aman Verma
Contact No:- 9718057522




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[Divine Souls:3820] Re: Needs of creation the world

Dhan Nirankar ji
 
About the thought... that God felt alone.. and created human to enjoy ...... I am sorry, its not in my powers to even comment on it. Though, i;ll be waiting if any human confirms it !
 
And dear saint, no question is invalid... because.. valids and invalids ;  good and bad ; correct and incorrect... I dont think these have got any concrete definition !
 
Regards
Pooja
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Problem Boy"aman verma" <amanverma.9@gmail.com> wrote:
Rev Saint das want to ask that Has God created the human being or any other creatures only just for enjoy Himself :-).....

As das had listened in his childhood that when The world has not been created then the God was feeling alone so he think that lets I create the World...... its means The God create the world only just for Enjoying .....and the person who have not obey the order of God then he fall into the cycle of  Birth and Death.......but as the scientific research the man has been created after the creation of lakhs year. Then what was the mistake of that person who had birth as  any other animal or creature before the birth as a Human.

Please forgive me if das asked any wrong question... 

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Harmohinder Singh Bhatia <upashak@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Saints
Dhan Nirankar ji.It is a beutifull world.God created for us to enjoy,love,share,apriciate the diversity and be thankfull for this.
Thanks
Upashak
 

Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:10:32 -0400
Subject: [Divine Souls:3806] Needs of creation the world
From: amanverma.9@gmail.com
To: Divine_Souls@googlegroups.com


Rev Saint
Say with love Dhan Nirankar ji.......

Rev Sain das asked so many question so please forgive me for my these Questions....

There is an other question with me that Why the world was created by Nirankar? ..... Wat was need of It.
Wat he want to do after creation of world......

and as we know the universe have been created many time and finished also.

wat is the reason of It.

Das know that u all saints have answer of every question.......

so please guide me.


--
Dust of ur lotus feet.
Aman Verma
Contact No:- 9718057522




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Aman Verma
Contact No:- 9718057522


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Cheers' Puja

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[Divine Souls:3819] Nice Wordings....




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[Divine Souls:3822] Avtar Bani Verse 16


THOU FORMLESS ONE [16]

The Formless God is eternally true, and Truth is His name;

He was, He is and He shall always be, and superb is His creation.

O' God, Thou art the Supreme Being and loftiest is Thy abode;

True and pure, absolutely pure and sublime, is Thy name.

Even the lowly gets exalted, if he realizes the Loftiest;

Avtar says, it is the grace of the True Master, if one is able to recognize God.

 

 

EK TU HI NIRANKAR [16]

Eh nirankar aey sachha har dam, naa ehda sachiyayi aey,

Hai see hai vee hovega vee, rachna khoob banayi aey,

Uchha uchha sabh to uchha, uchha paak mukam tera,

Sacha sucha bilkul sucha, sucha aey ek naam tera.

Neeva vee aoh uchha ho jaye, jo eh uchha jaan laye,

Kahe avtar guru di bakshish, jo isnoo pehchan laye…


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[Divine Souls:3823] Re: Needs of creation the world

Dhan Nirankar Ji,

Holy Saints, 

 

Aman Verma Ji,

 

Do you  strongly believe, what you listened in your

childhood or may be later … Like …

God created the world to enjoy himself,  

and that humans are punished if they don't obey his orders,

or the soul of human take form of animals, rebirths etc.

 

The beliefs not acceptable by the mind and soul, are

needed to be dropped first, so that space for a new

faith can be created

 

If an Idol of God is accepted as true God, there will not

remain any need to go beyond.

It becomes the ultimate truth for the believer.

 

With Regards,

Chandar.   



On 4/30/09, Problem Boy"aman verma" <amanverma.9@gmail.com> wrote:
Rev Saint das want to ask that Has God created the human being or any other creatures only just for enjoy Himself :-).....

As das had listened in his childhood that when The world has not been created then the God was feeling alone so he think that lets I create the World...... its means The God create the world only just for Enjoying .....and the person who have not obey the order of God then he fall into the cycle of  Birth and Death.......but as the scientific research the man has been created after the creation of lakhs year. Then what was the mistake of that person who had birth as  any other animal or creature before the birth as a Human.

Please forgive me if das asked any wrong question... 

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Harmohinder Singh Bhatia <upashak@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Saints
Dhan Nirankar ji.It is a beutifull world.God created for us to enjoy,love,share,apriciate the diversity and be thankfull for this.
Thanks
Upashak
 

Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:10:32 -0400
Subject: [Divine Souls:3806] Needs of creation the world
From: amanverma.9@gmail.com
To: Divine_Souls@googlegroups.com


Rev Saint
Say with love Dhan Nirankar ji.......

Rev Sain das asked so many question so please forgive me for my these Questions....

There is an other question with me that Why the world was created by Nirankar? ..... Wat was need of It.
Wat he want to do after creation of world......

and as we know the universe have been created many time and finished also.

wat is the reason of It.

Das know that u all saints have answer of every question.......

so please guide me.


--
Dust of ur lotus feet.
Aman Verma
Contact No:- 9718057522

 



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[Divine Souls:3817] A report on Road Show in Bangalore

Reverent Saints,
 
Please find attached the report on Road Show that was organized by Bangalore saints.
 
Charandhool,
SamtaDeepak
Bangalore

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[Divine Souls:3816] Re: Needs of creation the world

Dhan Nirankar Ji,
 
I fully agree with Rev. Puja ji's mail.  In fact this is not a subject of human intellect.  It is a subject of faith where no reasoning or argument can win.  And faith comes from following the words of Satguru.
 
Inder

Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:18:29 -0500
Subject: [Divine Souls:3815] Re: Needs of creation the world
From: pooja.fandan@gmail.com
To: amanverma.9@gmail.com
CC:

Dhan Nirankar ji
 
This is already accepted that the world is created by Nirankara.
 
Then why the question is asked from any human !? Has any human, till date, got to know the plans of GOD Himself !?
 
We humans can only give the answers based on our pre-conceived notions, with which our brains are conditioned. These notions are again infered by our brain because of some external environmental factors, some attained knowledge, or some past experience... I could not see any authentication in any of these... not regarding God's plan at least !
 
I feel that we ask the question to the one, who can answer it :-) Morever, even if we get the answer... then what !? No objective seems to get solved...
 
Love'
Puja
 
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Harmohinder Singh Bhatia <upashak@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Saints
Dhan Nirankar ji.It is a beutifull world.God created for us to enjoy,love,share,apriciate the diversity and be thankfull for this.
Thanks
Upashak
 

Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:10:32 -0400
Subject: [Divine Souls:3806] Needs of creation the world
From: amanverma.9@gmail.com
To: Divine_Souls@googlegroups.com

Rev Saint
Say with love Dhan Nirankar ji.......

Rev Sain das asked so many question so please forgive me for my these Questions....

There is an other question with me that Why the world was created by Nirankar? ..... Wat was need of It.
Wat he want to do after creation of world......

and as we know the universe have been created many time and finished also.

wat is the reason of It.

Das know that u all saints have answer of every question.......

so please guide me.


--
Dust of ur lotus feet.
Aman Verma
Contact No:- 9718057522


--
Cheers' Puja

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Wednesday, April 29, 2009

[Divine Souls:3814] Fw: Manav Ekta Samagam and Health fair - Photos and Report



DHANNIRANKAR JI    MOHAN SABNANI


--- On Wed, 4/29/09, Prafull Lande <prafull.lande@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Prafull Lande <prafull.lande@gmail.com>
Subject: Manav Ekta Samagam and Health fair - Photos and Report
To: "youth group" <northerncalifornianirankarifellowship@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 1:47 PM

Dear Saints,

Dhan Niranakrji !!

I have uploaded photos and report of the Manav Ekta Samagam and Health Fair program at :
http://www.nirankari.org/sanfrancisco/index.shtml
Thanks to Mohanji for sending  photos in quick time.

Humbly,
Prafull



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[Divine Souls:3813] Re: Needs of creation the world

Rev Saint das want to ask that Has God created the human being or any other creatures only just for enjoy Himself :-).....

As das had listened in his childhood that when The world has not been created then the God was feeling alone so he think that lets I create the World...... its means The God create the world only just for Enjoying .....and the person who have not obey the order of God then he fall into the cycle of  Birth and Death.......but as the scientific research the man has been created after the creation of lakhs year. Then what was the mistake of that person who had birth as  any other animal or creature before the birth as a Human.

Please forgive me if das asked any wrong question... 

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Harmohinder Singh Bhatia <upashak@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Saints
Dhan Nirankar ji.It is a beutifull world.God created for us to enjoy,love,share,apriciate the diversity and be thankfull for this.
Thanks
Upashak
 

Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:10:32 -0400
Subject: [Divine Souls:3806] Needs of creation the world
From: amanverma.9@gmail.com
To: Divine_Souls@googlegroups.com


Rev Saint
Say with love Dhan Nirankar ji.......

Rev Sain das asked so many question so please forgive me for my these Questions....

There is an other question with me that Why the world was created by Nirankar? ..... Wat was need of It.
Wat he want to do after creation of world......

and as we know the universe have been created many time and finished also.

wat is the reason of It.

Das know that u all saints have answer of every question.......

so please guide me.


--
Dust of ur lotus feet.
Aman Verma
Contact No:- 9718057522




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Aman Verma
Contact No:- 9718057522

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[Divine Souls:3815] Re: Needs of creation the world

Dhan Nirankar ji
 
This is already accepted that the world is created by Nirankara.
 
Then why the question is asked from any human !? Has any human, till date, got to know the plans of GOD Himself !?
 
We humans can only give the answers based on our pre-conceived notions, with which our brains are conditioned. These notions are again infered by our brain because of some external environmental factors, some attained knowledge, or some past experience... I could not see any authentication in any of these... not regarding God's plan at least !
 
I feel that we ask the question to the one, who can answer it :-) Morever, even if we get the answer... then what !? No objective seems to get solved...
 
Love'
Puja
 
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Harmohinder Singh Bhatia <upashak@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Saints
Dhan Nirankar ji.It is a beutifull world.God created for us to enjoy,love,share,apriciate the diversity and be thankfull for this.
Thanks
Upashak
 

Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:10:32 -0400
Subject: [Divine Souls:3806] Needs of creation the world
From: amanverma.9@gmail.com
To: Divine_Souls@googlegroups.com

Rev Saint
Say with love Dhan Nirankar ji.......

Rev Sain das asked so many question so please forgive me for my these Questions....

There is an other question with me that Why the world was created by Nirankar? ..... Wat was need of It.
Wat he want to do after creation of world......

and as we know the universe have been created many time and finished also.

wat is the reason of It.

Das know that u all saints have answer of every question.......

so please guide me.


--
Dust of ur lotus feet.
Aman Verma
Contact No:- 9718057522


--
Cheers' Puja

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[Divine Souls:3812] Re: Reason for Rebirth

Aman Ji,
 
It is not necessary that all my sufferings in this life are result of my actions from this life only. A soul goes through a cycle of 84 lakh births, all the actions, good or bad, will have a reaction on my lives. A birth in human form gives my soul the best opportunity to settle my debt of sufferings and attain salvation. The only reason that human life is considered to be the most important part of soul's journey through various births and re-births.
 
If i do not understand the importance of human life and do not avail the opportunity to attain salvation in this life, i go back into the circle of re-births. The next birth could be of an animal or an insect or any other species. The fate of every birth is death, so it really does not matter in which form i am born, i will die one day. The only difference of being born as human is that i can reach the goal of my soul by attaining salvation through god realization.
 
The human life is important because i have control over my actions, i can perform actions which can lead me to salvation. This is by far the biggest difference of human form than any other form. I may be born with my load of sufferings from my previous lives but if my actions in this human life are good, they can change my fate and ultimately lead to salvation. The human life is also known as "karam yuni", meaning my actions can change my fate. It is imperative that as a human i make full use of this opportunity, perform good deeds/actions, realize god and attain salvation. If i can do this, my soul will not take form of any animal but will be merged nirankar.
 
Love, Vivek

--- On Wed, 4/29/09, Problem Boy <amanverma.9@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Problem Boy <amanverma.9@gmail.com>
Subject: [Divine Souls:3807] Reason for Rebirth
To: "Divine Souls" <Divine_Souls@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 6:58 AM

Rev Saints,
Say with love Dhan Nirankar ji....

There is a new confusion with me.....

As we know that Man face the result of his deeds in the same life ( मनुष्य को अपने कर्मो की सजा इसी जनम में भुगतना पड़ता है) then on which basis soul take another Body in the form of animal.
and why every animal has its own fate....



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[Divine Souls:3811] Re: Reason for taking many body by satguru

Aman Ji,
 
The existence of nirankar in physical form is known as satguru. The satguru in physical form is always present in this world, i may or may not recognise him. Lord Rama, Lord Krishna, Guru Nanak Dev, Jesus Christ are the known forms of nirankar. A satguru can hide his physical form from humans and make it impossible for us to recognise him as long as he wants to hibernate. So, to answer your question, the satguru was always present, it is just the fact that i know some forms and rest i do not. I can trace the journey of the divine light from Lord Ram to Baba Hardev Singh Ji from history/religious books.
 
Baba Buta Singh Ji was bestowed with this divine knowledge by Bhai Sahib Kahan Singh Ji, after god realization, Baba Buta Singh Ji did not reveal this secret for 15 years. He met Baba Avtar Singh Ji and shared his divine knowledge with him, that is when the Nirankari Mission was founded. The divine power has been changing forms and at present Baba Hardev Singh Ji is the satguru of present time. The journey from Baba Avtar Singh Ji to Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji to Baba Hardev Singh Ji can be easily connected as we have saints who were fortunate to serve the three masters at one time or another.
 
The question of belonging to one family, well, it can be a coincidence or satguru's benevolence, all depends upon my own outlook. It is entirely upto the present satguru to choose his successor, who, where, when and how, i can try to answer these questions but i will just end up with mere speculations. The important aspect is to recognise the present master and serve him/ follow his teachings to make my life worth living.
 
Love, Vivek

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Subject: [Divine Souls:3792] Reason for taking many body by satguru
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Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 6:09 AM

Rev Saint Dhan Nirankar ji....
today i was discussing with my culige on the topic of Satguru.
She asked me that..
In every Yug satguru have taken only one Body as Ram, Krishna, Nanak, Jesus etc....
then why your Satguru have taken many Body as baba Buta singh, Avtar singh g, guruvachan sigh g and now baba Hardec singh ji....
and the last three were from the same family...
wat was this reason?????

Rev saint please Guide Us...




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[Divine Souls:3810] Re: Reason for Rebirth

Dear Saints
Dhan Nirankar ji.If I understand that what ever happens is result of our deeds then I would be worried about my deeds not for next life.
Thanks
Upashak
 

Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:58:46 -0400
Subject: [Divine Souls:3807] Reason for Rebirth
From: amanverma.9@gmail.com
To: Divine_Souls@googlegroups.com

Rev Saints,
Say with love Dhan Nirankar ji....

There is a new confusion with me.....

As we know that Man face the result of his deeds in the same life ( मनुष्य को अपने कर्मो की सजा इसी जनम में भुगतना पड़ता है) then on which basis soul take another Body in the form of animal.
and why every animal has its own fate....



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[Divine Souls:3809] Re: Needs of creation the world

Dear Saints
Dhan Nirankar ji.It is a beutifull world.God created for us to enjoy,love,share,apriciate the diversity and be thankfull for this.
Thanks
Upashak
 

Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:10:32 -0400
Subject: [Divine Souls:3806] Needs of creation the world
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Rev Saint
Say with love Dhan Nirankar ji.......

Rev Sain das asked so many question so please forgive me for my these Questions....

There is an other question with me that Why the world was created by Nirankar? ..... Wat was need of It.
Wat he want to do after creation of world......

and as we know the universe have been created many time and finished also.

wat is the reason of It.

Das know that u all saints have answer of every question.......

so please guide me.


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[Divine Souls:3825]

Life

Ignorance makes you believe that life functions haphazardly. Wisdom teaches you that everything that happens in this theatre of life has profound significance. What you see today is not the fruit of chance but a fruit from seeds planted in the past. Plant seeds of peace now and you will create a life of peace in the future

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[Divine Souls:3808] Avtar Bani Verse 15

THOU FORMLESS ONE [15]

Nature created by God has no limits, God's manifestation knows no bounds;

His boundary on the one side is unknown, the end on the other too is not known.

Millions and billions are His names and countless are His dwelling places;

There are millions of other planets, which are beyond the human comprehension.

There is earth beneath the earth, and several worlds beyond;

Avtar says, listen O' men, know the Divine Name from the True Master.

 
 

EK TU HI NIRANKAR [15]

Ant nahin ehdi kudrat da, vistar da ehde ant nahin,

Paar da ehde ant koi nahin, aar da ehde ant nahin,

Sankh karoran naam ne ehde, sankha hi asthan vi ne,

Akalan jithe pahunch na sakkan, sankha hor jahan vi ne,

Is dharti to thalle dharti, is ton agge hor jahan,

Kahe avtar suno re logo, poore gur to samjho naa.

 


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[Divine Souls:3806] Needs of creation the world

Rev Saint
Say with love Dhan Nirankar ji.......

Rev Sain das asked so many question so please forgive me for my these Questions....

There is an other question with me that Why the world was created by Nirankar? ..... Wat was need of It.
Wat he want to do after creation of world......

and as we know the universe have been created many time and finished also.

wat is the reason of It.

Das know that u all saints have answer of every question.......

so please guide me.


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[Divine Souls:3807] Reason for Rebirth

Rev Saints,
Say with love Dhan Nirankar ji....

There is a new confusion with me.....

As we know that Man face the result of his deeds in the same life ( मनुष्य को अपने कर्मो की सजा इसी जनम में भुगतना पड़ता है) then on which basis soul take another Body in the form of animal.
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[Divine Souls:3818] Being a mother.... This is an awesome read

> Subject:
> Being a mother.... This is an awesome
> read
>
>  
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> REMEMBER ME WHEN I
> AM OLD AND YOUR MUM  BEING A
> MOTHER  
>
>
>
>
>
>
> After 21 years of
> marriage, my wife wanted me 
> to take another woman out to dinner and a movie.  
> She said, 'I love you, but I know this other woman 
>
> loves you and would Love to spend some time with
> you.'    
>
> The other woman that my wife wanted me to visit was
> my Mother, who has been a widow for 19 years, but the
> demands of my work and my three children had made it
> possible to visit her only occasionally.  
>
>
> That night I called to invite her to go out for dinner 
> and a movie.  'What's wrong, are you well,'
> she asked? My mother is the type of woman who
> suspects that a late night call or a surprise invitation 
>
> is a sign of bad news.  
>
> 'I thought that it would be pleasant to spend  some
> time with you,' I responded 'just the two
> of us..' She thought about it for a moment, and then
> said, 
>
> 'I would like that very much.'  
>
>
> That Friday after work, as I drove over to pick her up
> I was a bit nervous. When I arrived at her house, I
> noticed that she, too, seemed to be nervous about our date.
> She waited in the door with her coat on. She had curled her
> hair and was wearing the dress that she had worn to
> celebrate her last wedding anniversary. She smiled from a
> face that was as
>
>  radiant as an angel's. 
> 'I told my friends that I was going to go out with my
> son, and they were impressed,' she said, as she got
> into the car. 'They can't wait to hear about our
> meeting.'  
>
>
> We went to a restaurant that, although not elegant, 
> was very nice and cosy. My mother took my arm as if she
> were the First Lady.  
>
> After we sat down, I had to read the menu. 
> Her eyes could only read large print. Half-way through
> the entrees, I lifted my eyes and saw Mother 
>
> sitting there staring at me. 
> A nostalgic smile was on her lips.  
>
> 'It was I who used to have to read the menu when
> you were small,' she said. 'Then it's time that
> you
> relax and let me return the favour,' I responded.
> During the dinner, we had an agreeable conversation
> nothing extraordinary but catching up on recent events of
> each others life. We talked so much that we missed the
> movie. As we arrived at her house later, she said,
> 'I'll go out with you again, but only if 
>
> you let me invite you.'  I agreed.  
>
> 'How was your dinner date?' asked my wife when I
> got home. 'Very nice, much more so than I could
> have imagined,' I answered.  
>
> A few days later, my mother died of a massive heart
> attack. It happened so suddenly that I didn't have a
> chance to do anything for her. Sometime later, I received
> an envelope with a copy of a restaurant receipt from the
> same place Mother and I had dined. An attached note said:
> 'I paid this bill in advance. I wasn't sure that I
> could be there; but, nevertheless, I paid for two plates -
> one for you and the other for your wife. You will never
> know what that night meant for me.  
>
>
> 'I love you, son'
>
> At that moment, I understood the importance of saying
> in time: 'I love YOU' and to give our loved ones
> the time that they deserve. Nothing in life is more
> important than your family. Give them the time they
> deserve, because these things cannot be put off till some
> 'other' time.  
>
>
> Somebody said it takes about six weeks to get back
> to normal after you've had a baby... somebody
> doesn't know that once you're a mother,
> 'normal' is
> history.  
>
> Somebody said you can't love the second child as
> much as you love the first... somebody doesn't have 
>
> two or more children.  
>
> Somebody said the hardest part of being a mother is
> labour and delivery....somebody never watched her
> 'baby' get on the bus for the first day of
> kindergarten.... or on a plane headed for military
> 'boot camp.'  
>
>
> Somebody said a Mother can stop worrying after her
> child gets married... somebody doesn't know that
> marriage adds a new son or daughter-in-law to a
> mother's heartstrings.
>  
> Somebody said a mother's job is done when her last
>
> child leaves home... somebody never had
> grandchildren...  
>
> Somebody said your mother knows you love her, so
> you don't need to tell her... somebody isn't a
> mother.
>   
> Pass this along to all the GREAT 'mothers' in your
> life and to everyone who ever had a mother.  
>
>
> This isn't just about being a mother; it's about
> appreciating the people in your lives while you have
> them... no matter who that person
> is!  
>
>


always keep smiling...
Babaji bless all with everything best...
Know the GOD You worship...


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Tuesday, April 28, 2009

[Divine Souls:3803] Thought of the day


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[Divine Souls:3804] Re: A MOTHERS LOVE



A MOTHERS   LOVE   

 

A little boy came up to his mother in the kitchen one evening while she was fixing supper, and handed her a piece of paper that he had been writing on. After his Mom dried her hands on an apron, she read it, and this is what it said:

For cutting the grass: $5.00
For cleaning up my room this week: $1.00
For going to the store for you: $.50
Baby-sitting my kid brother while you went shopping: $.25
Taking out the garbage: $1.00
For getting a good report card: $5.00
For cleaning up and raking the yard: $2.00
Total owed: $14.75

Well, his mother looked at him standing there, and the boy could see the memories flashing through her mind. She picked up the pen, turned over the paper he'd written on, and this is what she wrote:

For the nine months I carried you while you were growing inside me:
No Charge

For all the nights that I've sat up with you, doctored and prayed for you:
No Charge

For all the trying times, and all the tears that you've caused through the years:
No Charge

For all the nights that were filled with dread, and for the worries I knew were ahead:
No Charge

For the toys, food, clothes, and even wiping your nose:
No Charge

Son, when you add it up, the cost of my love is:
No Charge.

When the boy finished reading what his mother had written, there were big tears in his eyes, and he looked straight at his mother and said,
"Mom, I sure do love you.." And then he took the pen and in great big letters he wrote: "PAID IN FULL".
 
Lessons:

·         You will never how much your parents worth till you become a parent

·         Be a giver not an asker, especially with your parents. there is a lot to give, besides money.

Advice: IF your mom is alive and close  to you, give her a big kiss and ask her for forgiveness. If she is far away, call her. if she passed away, pray for her.

 


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[Divine Souls:3805] Re: Trees That Wood



Trees That Wood

 

Once there were three trees on a hill in the woods. They were discussing their hopes and dreams when the first tree said, "Someday I hope to be a treasure chest. I could be filled with gold, silver and precious gems. I could be decorated with intricate carving and everyone would see the beauty."

Then the second tree said, "Someday I will be a mighty ship. I will take kings and queens across the waters and sail to the corners of the world. Everyone will feel safe in me because of the strength of my hull."

Finally the third tree said, "I want to grow to be the tallest and straightest tree in the forest. People will see me on top of the hill and look up to my branches, and think of the heavens and God and how close to them I am reaching. I will be the greatest tree of all time and people will always remember me."

After a few years of praying that their dreams would come true, a group of woodsmen came upon the trees. When one came to the first tree he said, "This looks like a strong tree, I think I should be able to sell the wood to a carpenter" ... and he began cutting it down. The tree was happy, because he knew that the carpenter would make him into a treasure chest.

At the second tree a woodsman said, "This looks like a strong tree, I should be able to sell it to the shipyard." The second tree was happy because he knew he was on his way to becoming a mighty ship.

When the woodsmen came upon the third tree, the tree was frightened because he knew that if they cut him down his dreams would not come true. One of the woodsmen said, "I don't need anything special from my tree so I'll take this one", and he cut it down.

When the first tree arrived at the carpenters, he was made into a feed box for animals. He was then placed in a barn and filled with hay. This was not at all what he had prayed for. The second tree was cut and made into a small fishing boat. His dreams of being a mighty ship and carrying kings had come to an end. The third tree was cut into large pieces and left alone in the dark. The years went by, and the trees forgot about their dreams.

Then one day, a man and woman came to the barn. She gave birth and they placed the baby in the hay in the feed box that was made from the first tree. The man wished that he could have made a crib for the baby, but this manger would have to do. The tree could feel the importance of this event and knew that it had held the greatest treasure of all time. Years later, a group of men got in the fishing boat made from the second tree. One of them was tired and went to sleep. While they were out on the water, a great storm arose and the tree didn't think it was strong enough to keep the men safe. The men woke the sleeping man, and he stood and said "Peace" and the storm stopped. At this time, the tree knew that it had carried the King of Kings in its boat.

Finally, someone came and got the third tree. It was carried through the streets as the people mocked the man who was carrying it. When they came to a stop, the man was nailed to the tree and raised in the air to die at the top of a hill. When Sunday came, the tree came to realize that it was strong enough to stand at the top of the hill and be as close to God as was possible, because Jesus had been crucified on it.

The moral of this story is that when things don't seem to be going your way, always know that God has a plan for you. If you place your trust in Him, He will give you great gifts. Each of the trees got what they wanted, just not in the way they had imagined. We don't always know what God's plans are for us. We just know that His ways are not our ways, but His ways are always best.



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[Divine Souls:3802] Modifications to Divine Souls Group Output

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Dhan Nirankar ji.

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[Divine Souls:3793] Erasers on Pencils

Dhan Nirankar Ji.
 
Came across this wonderful teaching & would like to share it with you all..
 
Quote:
 
YOU DECIDE:-


A group of children were playing near two railway tracks, one still in
use while the other disused. Only one child played on the disused
track, the rest on the operational track.

The train is coming, and you are just beside the track interchange.
You can make the train change its course to the disused track and save
most of the kids. However, that would also mean the lone child playing
by the disused track would be sacrificed. Or would you rather let the
train go its way?

Let's take a pause to think what kind of decision we could make........ ........


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Most people might choose to divert the course of the train, and
sacrifice only one child. You might think the same way, I guess.
Exactly, I thought the same way initially because to save most of the
children at the expense of only one child was rational decision most
people would make, morally and emotionally. But, have you ever thought
that the child choosing to play on the disused track had in fact made
the right decision to play at a safe place?

Nevertheless, he had to be sacrificed because of his ignorant friends
who chose to play where the danger was. This kind of dilemma happens
around us everyday. In the office, community, in politics and
especially in a democratic society, the minority is often sacrificed
for the interest of the majority, no matter how foolish or ignorant
the majority are, and how farsighted and knowledgeable the minority
are. The child who chose not to play with the rest on the operational
track was sidelined. And in the case he was sacrificed, no one would
shed a tear for him.

The great critic Leo Velski Julian who told the story said he would
not try to change the course of the train because he believed that the
kids playing on the operational track should have known very well that
track was still in use, and that they should have run away if they
heard the train's sirens. If the train was diverted, that lone child
would definitely die because he never thought the train could come
over to that track! Moreover, that track was not in use probably
because it was not safe. If the train was diverted to the track, we
could put the lives of all passengers on board at stake! And in your
attempt to save a few kids by sacrificing one child, you might end up
sacrificing hundreds of people to save these few kids.

While we are all aware that life is full of tough decisions that need
to be   made, we may not realize that hasty decisions may not always
be the right one.



"Remember that what's right isn't always popular... and what's popular
isn't always right."

Everybody makes mistakes; that's why they put erasers on pencils.


IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION , THEN YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

- The highest wisdom is kindness.
- No candle loses its light while lighting another candle."
- Never stop helping others because it makes your life more meaningful.
 
Unquote:
 
Regards,
Manish Keswani
Dubai
 



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