Dear Saints, Dhan Nirankar Ji, Nirankari – Non Nirankari: We had the exact same topic in our Thursaday night sangat in Dubai (Thursday night sangat is based on topics given by saints) So lot of saints shared their personal views/opinion which I would like to share with all of you here. One of the saint said: We are nirankari only when we are doing simran, meeting saints, doing satsang, rest of the time we are busy doing our worldly duties (sansari) but if we keep nirankar in mind 24/7 then we are nirankari 24/7 if not then we are both nirankari as well as sansari and we act according to our situation. Another saint said once we get the brahm gyan we become nirankari and also the same lines of avtar bani were repated. I would like to aske what is the true definition of being a Nirankari?? Yes! Its true that we have been bestowed with the divine knowledge and we have seen the formless nirankar (God) Nirankar means: one which is formless, air cannot blow it, water cannot wet it, fire cannot burn it, which cannot be seen without the blessings of TRUE MASTER. So, as one of the saints said that when we add our I to Nirankar, we become NirankarI. We are form of this almighty nirankar but again in our day to day activities are we being Godly/Saintly?? Are people around us wanting to know why we are different from others? What is it that keeps us happy 24/7? Who we are? Its true that after getting the divine knowledge we have all become Nirankari but is there a stamp put on forehead…no! Only by accepting this divine knowledge and following the preachings of mission 24/7 we will be come a true Nirankari. Our deeds will prove it to the world that these people have got the divine knowledge are in true sense GODLY. Lastly I would say that the whole world is in this Nirankar and is the creation of Nirankar and we inspite of taking divine knowledge (gyan) still live in Sansar (society) and we are all sansari too because I is again attached to this sansar (grahst main rehna hain). Please forgive me if I have said anything wrong or hurt anyone's feelings and bless me for future to not to repeat the mistakes. Loving Dhan Nirankar Ji, Kaajal Khurana
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Dhan Nirankar Ji. Das was having a small discussion with wife on: "What is difference between a Nirankari and a Non-Nirankari?" Das would like to share this with everyone. "Nirankari" - means one believes or is a part of the nirankar. So according to this definition everyone in this world are nirankari because in some way or the other every one believes in formless GOD. It is said: "JIDHAR DEKHTA HOON TU HI TU HAIN, KI HAR SHAI MEIN TERA JALWA HU BA HU HAIN" When we have understood this then no one in this world should ever be referred to as "Non-Nirankari". Das thinks that its a wrong perception that those who are not attached with the nirankari mission are "Non-Nirankari". Das thinks we shoud say: "Hum nirankari mission se jude hue hain." and not that "Hum nirankari hain" because this means that everyone else are "Non- Nirankari". Das would like you bhramagyani mahapurho to enlighten me in this regards. Please forgive me because das is a child and still trying to learn by getting answers to questions that come up in mind. Dust of thy lotus feet Das Deepak --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ MEMBERS TO NOTE (V IMP) ********************** Proper English Recommended. Avoid Hinglish, Pinglish or English Transliteration. /* No personal communications. The message has to be for the whole group */ //* The email content has to be spiritual in nature . *// ///* Duplicate postings are deleted. Check group archives */// ////* IMP - remove all previous content from your message. V IMP - Do not include contacts in the message body as published to a blog*//// ////* Moderators decisions are final. *//// ///* Divine Services Group for career posts*/// //* warmregards@gmail.com for psychological advice, if needed.*// /* Moderators / the Nirankari Mission may not concur with the views expressed by the authors */ ******************** To post to this group, send email to <Divine_Souls@googlegroups.com> To unsubscribe from the group, send email to <Divine_Souls-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Dear Saints, Reply from Sunita Ji -------------
Rev Saints, Dhan Nirankar, The question raised is really deep and for the understanding of we
devotees of the Mission. All that said is right, quotes from
Avtarvani make our faith strong. But as on today Baba ji want
something more from us. All who are enlightened with this God
Knowledge and blessed from HH show learn to see the Nirankar in every
human being he / she comes across. Feeling should prevail in our
hearts that every other human being we come across drop from the ocean
of Love / Nirankar. Then question arises then should be greet and
meet the person the way we meet fellow devotees. For that there is
are few lines which were quoted once by Kirpa Sagar ji " The way
Murtikar makes may idols from the same rock, But we worship those who
are installed in temples and not those which are still on sale" Regards, Sunita Regionold
------- Regards,
Sunil Sethi
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Dear Saints, Please find reply from Nisha Ji. --------------
Dear Saints, Dhan Nirankar Ji.
In the last two lines of verse 311 of the Avtar Bani, it states:
Pura satgur jag te lokon, naam da hi vapari eh.
Naam ehda nirankar hai, jo vi jaan lave nirankari eh.
It's translation in English is:
O' people, the perfect True
Master in this world is the trader of the Divine Name,
Nirankar is His Name and the one who knows Him is Nirankari.
Based on these lines, my understanding is that a Nirankari is not
merely
someone who is part of the Nirankari
Mission. Nirankari is not someone who just believes in
God, but the one who has been enlightened with the knowledge of God
and who
leads his/her life out of being with God, Nirankar.
Seeking blessings,
Nisha Kalwani (Singapore)
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Sunil Sethi
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Day & Date: Friday, July 24, 2009 Venue: Panipat (Haryana) Before the samagam, Baba Ji mentioned about Panipat’s new satsang Bhawan which was inaugurated same evening. While addressing the congregation, His Holiness Satguru Baba Hardev Singh Ji Maharaj said: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Today, here in Panipat all of you are attaining the bliss by attending this samagam. Devotees & saints have always gave this message & reminded us to realize the importance of this life. This life is very precious so one has to make full use of it. But it depends on individual to individual. The one who does not pay attention to this message will not be able to achieve the goal of life, cannot attain bliss & live this life in hatred, jealousy. While living, we have to realize our real abode. (Agyani ka lok bhi gaya or parlok bhi gaya) Saints are full of enlightenment that’s why they are symbols of light. Similarly, an ignorant person symbolizes darkness. Devotees are symbols of sunlight & flowers. Since time immemorial, these comparisons co-exist. We see darkness on that portion of earth where rays of sun don’t reach. Hot-cold, fire-water, kans, rawan, duryodhan, hirnkashyap & saints also co-existed in every age. It depends upon on individual from whom he takes the inspiration. He adopts the saintly path or sinful path. Among all species, humans are blessed with the power of thinking, wisdom & intellect. But surprisingly, it is painful to see that by getting this human form also man’s actions are like devils. Will-power or bravery also has different meanings. Somebody has to be really gutsy to do a robbery or murder. On the other hand, if somebody has jumped in the river to save the life of a stranger i.e. also bravery. But finally we have to think which one is greater. Saints give clarion call & try to awaken mankind- what are you gathering. You will be ashamed here (Lok) & there (parlok) also. Beware of being lost, leave the path of cruelty & follow the path of humanity. Be away from hatred & don’t hurt others. “Kalya naal bigadey, Dholya Naal Swaar” Oh Man you wasted so many years of your life in ignorance (Color of hairs is also changed from black to white). Still in slumber, ignorance & your feelings have not changed. You can’t change your past, your last day or last year. That is gone. But you have present in your hands, so be careful & tread the saintly path. Its time now. (Ab tau sambhal jao). Otherwise, when you will die, your body will be buried or burnt in fire. What will happen to your soul. That’s why saints said: “Dholya naal swaar. (even if you are in old age now, you should realize God). Before you die, you have to awaken. So much relaxation is given that even if you were not able to realize truth(god) through-out your life & now you are in old age but still you have given this chance of god realization. No condition is imposed that you have to realize God when your hair was black. (Abhi bhi sambhal jao, abhi bhi hatho mein kuch hai). Still you can invest these precious breaths. Like a youngster, who loses all his wealth in gamble, drugs or worldly pleasures. Here, it is said still you have time & now should invest properly and give you soul its real home (parmatma). This is warning that now you should link your-self with truth. Realise, what is most precious ! Know what is most important sansaar or Nirankar. Realize: the importance of your each breath & which path is good. Otherwise, later on you will be ashamed. Samjha Sohi Janiye, Jaake Hridya Vivek” Therefore, this mesaage is repeated here. There is no change in the message- it’s the same message which was given in Satyug (golden-age), Treta (bronze-age), Dwapar (silver age) & now in Kalyug (Iron age). In that age & this age also, the importance of sun, water & air is same. Oxyzen has the same importance then & now. Therefore, importance does not changes with time. Today Love also has the same importance. Imagine, if there is no sunrise for 1-2 months – what will happen. It has been observed in some countries that most cases of depression are found at such places where there is no sunshine. So, we can understand without sunshine what can happen. Therefore, importance of love is always same. It is ignorance if somebody says: it’s Kalyug, so I will not love anybody. “prem ki ganga bahate chalo” “Jis ghat prem na sanchay, so ghat jaan massan” ‘Loving is living’. Mritak kahiye Nanka, Je Preet nahi bhagwant. It is due to lack of love there are differences, regionalism, violence etc. Jin prem kiyo, Tin hi Prabh Paayo. Prem se pargat hoyi main jaana. 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